Jon, don’t disagree that the written word would be more probative. That makes sense. That said, the ad hominem directed at Steve K. doesn’t help your argument IMHO. Rather it indicates he has gotten under your skin. Doesn’t appear you have attempted to persuade him to the written media you suggest. Have you? With the exception at h…
Jon, don’t disagree that the written word would be more probative. That makes sense. That said, the ad hominem directed at Steve K. doesn’t help your argument IMHO. Rather it indicates he has gotten under your skin. Doesn’t appear you have attempted to persuade him to the written media you suggest. Have you? With the exception at hand it seems the two og you are mostly intellectual cohorts. We need that instead of infighting…
Maybe you haven't followed all of the dialogue. First, Jon makes no ad hominem attacks at Steve but does, as he has repeatedly and tirelessly, explain, again, why this is utterly ridiculous to keep having to rehash. Jon doesn't have to worry about "helping" his argument because he has the full facts to show and this is not about opinions. Persuade Steve? Maybe you haven't followed Steve's writings and responses to all of the many suggestions given as to more information, citations, references, and the like. Steve has zero interest in researching or considering anything other than what he continually regurgitates without any proof whatsoever. This is not infighting, it's a repeated attempt to expose the truth and explain why and how one arrives at that truth. Steve has every opportunity to do real research and have a respectful and intelligent response to those that have tried to show him the facts but he refuses. He's a big boy and clearly he has chosen to stay an uniformed bully, or at least he pretends to be uninformed.
Yeah. Steve has been a warior against the COVID injections. But he has convinced himself there is an actual pathongenic virus capable of infecting us with this minor disease claimed to cause fatalities. And he refuses to back down from that opinion.
Interesting conversation. Malone is an insider. He promotes fear, points us in wrong directions and creates discord among our most visible truth tellers. Many of the doctors don't appear to have shaken off their training about viruses. Perhaps Kirsch can't accept that he foolishly submitted to the shots. I don't understand Bigtree since he grew up believing in the body's power to heal. Is he trying to appeal to a diverse audience. Seems to me the best course is finding the truth, stick with it and keep repeating it. What's happening now is incoherent which keeps us divided.
Agree that the unlearning of years of schooling can be difficult to just toss out the window, but then again I find it hard to believe that the supposed intelligence that surely must exist in these professionals could keep them from objectively evaluating the very clear evidence, or lack thereof, about viruses. I just can't excuse them anymore than I can for their lack of knowledge of vaccine toxicity. When you are tasked with someone's life how could you so casually dole out any treatment without knowing what is in it and what it might do? Sure, they get brainwashed but it's because they do not question and clearly it's possible to do so because there are many that did just that shortly into their careers and changed course. I personally wonder just how many of those that claim to have taken the shot actually did, including Kirsch. There are many layers to the fraud, to controlled opposition, to the entire playbook of control, so it might be difficult to ever really know. I believe you may be correct about Del, which, to me, shows who he truly is, a person of weak character and lacking integrity. He clearly was becoming anxious and defensive, getting louder and more animated the further he went into the interview with Derrick Brose. If you haven't yet seen the video of Cowan, Kaufman, and the Bailey's response to that you might find it interesting. It's disheartening to see how many believe Malone is one of the "good guys" trying to save everyone. Yes, I agree that to stick with the truth no matter what and keep on spreading it is the best course of action.
I appreciate you're speaking up. You're insightful and present the situation clearly. Thank you for the info on interviews, I hadn't seen them. I'm puzzled by the medical people obstinately sticking with dogma. It could be fearing a market that doesn't need all of them once people understand the scam of allopathic. I've also wondered if many of them may have cognitive issues, brain injury, caused by ministrations to themselves. A hospital administrator I've known since childhood, very fun loving, affable guy, did a lot of handwringing about covid deaths but did nothing to stop the toxic treatments that killed them. As I've pressed him I've discovered a rule follower who can't function if the world is not what he thinks, a lack of empathy, and impatience with doctors who've told him their horror stories of abuse. Looking back, I realize he was always a go along get along guy. He was born by C Section in the 50's. Was his brain damaged by chemicals? Anyway, his inner city hospital's covid fatality rate was 17% during the initial scam and that hospital is partnered with some shady characters developing very valuable real estate where their patient population resides.
He says he took the injections. Lots of people have claimed that but we have no proof, except perhaps when one has fallen very ill or dies without good explanation. He might have gotten them but he very well might not have. You can be sure that Biden and Fauci and hundreds of others that claim to have taken them did not do so. Marketing and PR. Lead the believers to the slaughter. Steve could easily be using his warrior against the injections as a front to lead people to believe in the virus scam so that further tyranny will take place. Maybe not. But he's clearly making a bullying stance in favor of the virus and goes above and beyond reason in his attacks of those that show the proof that none have ever been proven to exist and cause disease. It's beyond obvious he has ulterior motives, but what exactly, and why. Either way, he is following the same lines of method that Del Bigtree, RFK, Jr, et al, which leads people into listening to them believing they are all in as far as truth is concerned and the audience has little interest in verifying what they say. Slam dunk. The audience will follow their viral causation beliefs. Something very rotten in Denmark with all of those people. Stinks to high heavens.
I have a serious problem when an audience gambles by going 'all-in,' dumping their entire stake into the pot. It's like by being a part of an audience and deciding where to spend your attention, you have to commit wholly and solely to whatever choice you made.
An "all-in" mentality like this will make you over-commit to a single source and if that source turns out to be a bust, you are broke. And desperately searching for a loan shark to lend you enough for the next round.
I don't really read Kirsch's stuff anymore - he had a great blog post about the leaked audio from inside the Israeli Ministry of Health recently. Pretty potent stuff (or so I thought) because now we're back at square one and listening to Steve patiently for the next jackpot to drop. The louder the squabbling, the less I pay heed to it and unfortunately, the lower their overall credibility sinks.
Today was an interesting day on substack as I got to see a mass formation occurring on certain substack pages - probably the largest substack accounts infact. The comments section on these blog posts are boilerplate and bland, being too polite and devoid of conjecture. Is that the way they like it?
Maybe i'm noticing this because the powers that be want to astroturf over any questioning of viral theory. They are certainly changing the subject pretty quick & lashing out too.
I might change my account description to "expert scientist" and start polluting their comments section with boilerplate scientism, could be fun!
Agree. And that's exactly what the nonindependent thinkers do. "Follow the experts" mentality even if those "experts" are just talk show hosts, journalists, or whatever the case may be. That's why it's important that Bigtree and the others actually look seriously at the evidence against the existence of pathogenic viruses and come to the obvious truth and speak out about it. Celia asked why it was so important that Del refutes the viral causation notion and that is why. He at minimum needs to have a clear scientific based response as to why and how it's been proven that they do indeed exist and cause disease which of course isn't possible, or have a reasonable reason why he is choosing not to look at the evidence, and he's not doing that either.
So many substack readers/commenters are of the same mentality as you see with other social media . While substack appeared to, initially anyway, be for those that were being censored elsewhere for their truthful but oppositional views, it has become a free for all for imitators and detractors and outright controlled, (in one way or another), opposition. It will be a good day when all of the truly great writers, journalists, and other contributors to truth and freedom at on the newest platforms, such as Sayer Ji's newest, and Barre Lando's.
Jon, don’t disagree that the written word would be more probative. That makes sense. That said, the ad hominem directed at Steve K. doesn’t help your argument IMHO. Rather it indicates he has gotten under your skin. Doesn’t appear you have attempted to persuade him to the written media you suggest. Have you? With the exception at hand it seems the two og you are mostly intellectual cohorts. We need that instead of infighting…
Maybe you haven't followed all of the dialogue. First, Jon makes no ad hominem attacks at Steve but does, as he has repeatedly and tirelessly, explain, again, why this is utterly ridiculous to keep having to rehash. Jon doesn't have to worry about "helping" his argument because he has the full facts to show and this is not about opinions. Persuade Steve? Maybe you haven't followed Steve's writings and responses to all of the many suggestions given as to more information, citations, references, and the like. Steve has zero interest in researching or considering anything other than what he continually regurgitates without any proof whatsoever. This is not infighting, it's a repeated attempt to expose the truth and explain why and how one arrives at that truth. Steve has every opportunity to do real research and have a respectful and intelligent response to those that have tried to show him the facts but he refuses. He's a big boy and clearly he has chosen to stay an uniformed bully, or at least he pretends to be uninformed.
Yeah. Steve has been a warior against the COVID injections. But he has convinced himself there is an actual pathongenic virus capable of infecting us with this minor disease claimed to cause fatalities. And he refuses to back down from that opinion.
As has Malone, McCullough, Bigtree, etc. There's method to their madness, as my mom used to say.
Interesting conversation. Malone is an insider. He promotes fear, points us in wrong directions and creates discord among our most visible truth tellers. Many of the doctors don't appear to have shaken off their training about viruses. Perhaps Kirsch can't accept that he foolishly submitted to the shots. I don't understand Bigtree since he grew up believing in the body's power to heal. Is he trying to appeal to a diverse audience. Seems to me the best course is finding the truth, stick with it and keep repeating it. What's happening now is incoherent which keeps us divided.
Agree that the unlearning of years of schooling can be difficult to just toss out the window, but then again I find it hard to believe that the supposed intelligence that surely must exist in these professionals could keep them from objectively evaluating the very clear evidence, or lack thereof, about viruses. I just can't excuse them anymore than I can for their lack of knowledge of vaccine toxicity. When you are tasked with someone's life how could you so casually dole out any treatment without knowing what is in it and what it might do? Sure, they get brainwashed but it's because they do not question and clearly it's possible to do so because there are many that did just that shortly into their careers and changed course. I personally wonder just how many of those that claim to have taken the shot actually did, including Kirsch. There are many layers to the fraud, to controlled opposition, to the entire playbook of control, so it might be difficult to ever really know. I believe you may be correct about Del, which, to me, shows who he truly is, a person of weak character and lacking integrity. He clearly was becoming anxious and defensive, getting louder and more animated the further he went into the interview with Derrick Brose. If you haven't yet seen the video of Cowan, Kaufman, and the Bailey's response to that you might find it interesting. It's disheartening to see how many believe Malone is one of the "good guys" trying to save everyone. Yes, I agree that to stick with the truth no matter what and keep on spreading it is the best course of action.
I appreciate you're speaking up. You're insightful and present the situation clearly. Thank you for the info on interviews, I hadn't seen them. I'm puzzled by the medical people obstinately sticking with dogma. It could be fearing a market that doesn't need all of them once people understand the scam of allopathic. I've also wondered if many of them may have cognitive issues, brain injury, caused by ministrations to themselves. A hospital administrator I've known since childhood, very fun loving, affable guy, did a lot of handwringing about covid deaths but did nothing to stop the toxic treatments that killed them. As I've pressed him I've discovered a rule follower who can't function if the world is not what he thinks, a lack of empathy, and impatience with doctors who've told him their horror stories of abuse. Looking back, I realize he was always a go along get along guy. He was born by C Section in the 50's. Was his brain damaged by chemicals? Anyway, his inner city hospital's covid fatality rate was 17% during the initial scam and that hospital is partnered with some shady characters developing very valuable real estate where their patient population resides.
Steve has been a warrior against covid mRNA injectables, after taking 2 or 3 of them himself.
If only Steve took a 'try it and see' approach to viral isolation / proof of existence too.
He says he took the injections. Lots of people have claimed that but we have no proof, except perhaps when one has fallen very ill or dies without good explanation. He might have gotten them but he very well might not have. You can be sure that Biden and Fauci and hundreds of others that claim to have taken them did not do so. Marketing and PR. Lead the believers to the slaughter. Steve could easily be using his warrior against the injections as a front to lead people to believe in the virus scam so that further tyranny will take place. Maybe not. But he's clearly making a bullying stance in favor of the virus and goes above and beyond reason in his attacks of those that show the proof that none have ever been proven to exist and cause disease. It's beyond obvious he has ulterior motives, but what exactly, and why. Either way, he is following the same lines of method that Del Bigtree, RFK, Jr, et al, which leads people into listening to them believing they are all in as far as truth is concerned and the audience has little interest in verifying what they say. Slam dunk. The audience will follow their viral causation beliefs. Something very rotten in Denmark with all of those people. Stinks to high heavens.
I have a serious problem when an audience gambles by going 'all-in,' dumping their entire stake into the pot. It's like by being a part of an audience and deciding where to spend your attention, you have to commit wholly and solely to whatever choice you made.
An "all-in" mentality like this will make you over-commit to a single source and if that source turns out to be a bust, you are broke. And desperately searching for a loan shark to lend you enough for the next round.
I don't really read Kirsch's stuff anymore - he had a great blog post about the leaked audio from inside the Israeli Ministry of Health recently. Pretty potent stuff (or so I thought) because now we're back at square one and listening to Steve patiently for the next jackpot to drop. The louder the squabbling, the less I pay heed to it and unfortunately, the lower their overall credibility sinks.
Today was an interesting day on substack as I got to see a mass formation occurring on certain substack pages - probably the largest substack accounts infact. The comments section on these blog posts are boilerplate and bland, being too polite and devoid of conjecture. Is that the way they like it?
Maybe i'm noticing this because the powers that be want to astroturf over any questioning of viral theory. They are certainly changing the subject pretty quick & lashing out too.
I might change my account description to "expert scientist" and start polluting their comments section with boilerplate scientism, could be fun!
Agree. And that's exactly what the nonindependent thinkers do. "Follow the experts" mentality even if those "experts" are just talk show hosts, journalists, or whatever the case may be. That's why it's important that Bigtree and the others actually look seriously at the evidence against the existence of pathogenic viruses and come to the obvious truth and speak out about it. Celia asked why it was so important that Del refutes the viral causation notion and that is why. He at minimum needs to have a clear scientific based response as to why and how it's been proven that they do indeed exist and cause disease which of course isn't possible, or have a reasonable reason why he is choosing not to look at the evidence, and he's not doing that either.
So many substack readers/commenters are of the same mentality as you see with other social media . While substack appeared to, initially anyway, be for those that were being censored elsewhere for their truthful but oppositional views, it has become a free for all for imitators and detractors and outright controlled, (in one way or another), opposition. It will be a good day when all of the truly great writers, journalists, and other contributors to truth and freedom at on the newest platforms, such as Sayer Ji's newest, and Barre Lando's.