Hear, hear. So far, he's lost at least one subscriber, and I'm a retired attorney! One of the earliest statements I heard him say years back was that his stance with the resisters would cost him an eventual Nobel prize for the mRNA technology. Thought that was an odd sentiment, but his Napoleonic streak has become clearer. He needs to get better advice from a better lawyer before his image is reduced to a bully, while the Breggins are hailed as martyrs.
Interesting you mention Malone. He now travels like a circus monkey; on the circuit of doctors who are outspoken about the harms that Malone's mRNA 'jab' did/does. There's something not right about the guy. I pick up on the lack of sincerity or something. Apparently, he is v*x injured now...
While he makes me uneasy at times, do get your data straight. The jabs are not his. He developed a core mRNA technology while a young man that current scientists have picked up on and run with as the original patents have expired. He HAS however been in the thick of things as a consultant for many years with DARPA and researchers in the bioweapons fields. And he was injured by the jabs - almost died. Which gave him his Paul from Tarsus moment of being smacked with the light of God or whatever. He started out sounding really good with much information to help us but now....restrained is the best I can say when he speaks. Maybe it’s the lawsuit that keeps him from speaking as he used to. And his substack articles don’t sound like him which gives credence to someone here who said he has writers doing his articles now. Maybe so. But all of this makes me sad as it’s dividing us and breaking us apart.
Whats even stranger is he claimed he took it because he claims he had long covid and had "heard" the vaccine could help with that. Thats when my ears pointed. It was his tlav interview quite some time ago.
That was initial response and it hasn't changed. On one hand he is "the inventor" of mnra vaccines, as he has claimed, and on the other hand he is a hapless dupe suffering from long covid and "heard" the vaccine (THAT HE CLAIMS HE INVENTED) helps with long covid and jow he is vax injured and has seen the light.
Here's the deal. The "idea" that dna or mrna could be used as gene therapy (whether called a "vaccine" or not) was obvious and EVERYBODY in molecular biology knew it. I haven't read his patent, but I'm betting there's nothing brilliant about it. And btw, it doesn't and can't work, not the least of which is because no one has shown that viruses exist. This line of investigation is a total fraud.
There is. My gut squirms a bit with him and I pay attention to that. His substack this afternoon really irritated me as he went to great lengths to talk about forgiveness and letting things slide with regard to the Twitter hate stuff he is likely to get now that he is back on it. Someone else pointed out he was being inconsistent so I didn’t have to. But yes, “off” is a good word.
As a pro musician, I am very sensitive to body language, speech, tone, inflection, intention, etc. In other words, I understand BS when I sense/see it.
Thank you for bringing sanity and levity to a sad situation. You are like Christopher Hitchens -- completely irreplaceable.
Dr. Malone's actions are incomprehensible, if his interest is advancing the idea of individual liberty in a sane society. Public figures are open to criticism in a free society. Dr. Breggin and his wife are free to express their opinions and so is Dr. Malone, about their opinions. As you indicate, one's work speaks for itself.
Dr. Breggin is 86 years old and has worked for several decades to try to contribute to the health and safety of medical consumers. I wonder what Dr. Malone's work during the last few decades has contributed to?
This is assuming he actually cares about his reputation and that the suit is about defamation, and even that the impetus for it came from Malone as an individual.
I personally think this is another, important, step in the process of destroying First Amendment free speech rights and cementing all-encompassing censorship into society and law. If disagreement equals defamation (which is what this suit seems ultimately to be saying) and speech is violence...well, I guess we can see where that leads us.
I've been very circumspect when many people I know have in the past questioned Dr Malone's motives, accused him of being "controlled opposition" or worse, but I'm now starting to strongly suspect he is actively working for the other side. At the very least, it looks like his narcissism and egotism have made him a very useful idiot for them to manipulate.
I have always been suspicious of Dr Malone simply because people as embedded and ingrained in the military medical state apparatus do not simply step outside of it and start blathering to world as they safely jetset from interview to interview. Sorry folks, they don't happen. Those planes go down, those people get arrested or they kill themselves by shooting two bullets into their head.
"Controlled opposition" is not what he is, though, IN MY OPINION.
I just don't think Malone could be doing what he is doing without the strong backing of other people in influence and power. My belief is he represents a segment inside that has a different path than the Fauci WEF group. He isn't "controlled opposition" he is "another opposition".
It is interesting isn't it how calm and level headed and demure he is in interviews but if you cross him, in private he is a badger. Cursing, yelling, threatening.
Hardly better, lol! Just less secure in my ability to judge character. I've been uncomfortable with him since I first saw him interviewed by Bret Weinstein. There have certainly been red flags since then, too.
I am a big fan of Dr. Breggin. I have read several of his books. I have listened to many of his podcasts before and since the covid scam. I am not an expert of any kind -except about myself, and sometimes I doubt even that. I don't know what Dr. and Mrs. Breggin have opined about Malone, but they have every right to say what they think. I doubt, very seriously they said anything that isn't in a public record and then made their own thoughts on his record be known. If Dr. Malone can't take whatever was said about him by the Breggins he should be very careful because there are others who have given their opinions about his work that are very unflattering.
The Breggins must have seemed like easy picking to Malone's lawyers.
Thank you, Jon, for addressing this. I have followed Peter Breggin for years before COVID. As a mental health therapist, he brought honor back to my field, which has lost its way. Since covid, so many different perspectives on health, medicine, science, and even to the nature of our reality have come to light. Everyone comes to their opinions based on their past work; everyone offers something different. I find this extremely interesting and challenging to my own thinking processes. We have gotten only one side of things (the propaganda), for too long...thank god we have differing opinions now. For Malone to strike out against the Breggins like this speaks volumes about his character. Why doesn't he just debate him online for all to see? Let public opinion be the judge.
The world needs more folk like the Breggins right now. Taking them down hurts our fight for the truth. There is no winning for Malone now, no matter what the courts decide.
Christy, I agree with your feelings about Dr. Breggin he is a rare doctor when it comes to mental health that drugs do more harm than good. Yes, we need more people like Dr. Breggin and if Malone doesn't change his mind and stop his suit there will be no winning for him no matter what happen to him in the future.
It's amazing that with all the decades he has challenged the status quo in psychiatry and the pharmaceutical industry, noone has sued him. But now, over a difference of opinion?? Maybe Malone is being paid to sue him because the Breggins got too close to the mark in their recent book. Hmmm I wonder which predator got triggered....?
Thanks, Jon. I believe Malone knows what he is doing: Going after the ONE Psychiatrist who calls out Big Pharma on the Mental Disease Hoax. Peter has done that for decades and this was seen as a huge opportunity to sidetrack/silence Peter.
Very well said, as always. Personally, I stopped paying attention to Malone a long time ago. I just don’t trust him. What he is doing to the Breggins is nothing more than a nuclear-level temper tantrum. Since when did it become impossible for medical professionals to have rational conversations, individual opinions, and “agree to disagree” about issues? Just because someone disagrees with your views about a subject doesn’t give you the right to try to destroy them. It’s incredibly cruel, among other things.
Excellent job, Jon. And I had a couple of big belly laughs today from it.
Fun aside, I had an instant dislike for Malone from the beginning. His well-trimmed beard, grandfatherly persona and articulate soft-spoken voice, I smelled a foul smell from the beginning and I was admonished over and over for saying he was a shill.
He always beLIEved in the virus myth and that was part of his job, to claim he was a developer in the mRNA technology, for the purposes of credibility as a (political) “scientist” and “authority” figure and then to do an about face to support the anti jab crowd. Smoke comes out of my ears just thinking about this crook.
Dr. Peter Breggin has proven himself to be a genuine, caring human being who has exposed appalling treatment of people and who wanted to change that. I see no malice or manipulation from Dr. Breggin.
I see Malone as a poisonous snake who is now poised to strike at free speech, and that obviously includes revealing truth. “Do not challenge the AUTHORITY of the medical cartel nor the power structure (that funds me)”. He represents the power structure’s attempt to silence any opposition to the facts which prove malice and malfeasance.
Regarding Malone’s appearance: look at his eyes if you can find them. It looks more like small chunks of coal.  I saw him from eight feet away when he came to speak at a rally. I saw him when he was arriving and I said, “The man!” He stepped back and then it was the look of a deer in the headlights. He’s not comfortable with himself.
I do similar things like that around the more famous I find questionable. They have no idea what the heck is going on, when a nobody presents himself not gawking over them like everyone else is.
I just read the Breggins take on this, I am confused, this is a defamation lawsuit based on a disagreement of the use of mass formation psychosis? Is there anything else going on? Did the Breggins state unequivocally that Malone fucks goats or something? I just don't see how this doesn't get tossed out immediately.
There were interviews where they speculated on his government connections, and made declarative statements, rather than couching them in, "My speculation is..., or I think that..." etc.
Do you know where I can find those? Things are pretty hot right with the Simone Gold controversy, issues with Died Suddenly, Kirsch came after the Baileys and Cowan, and whatever issues have gone on with the Reiner Fulmich investigations.
There are fractures occurring and this is a real good time to have as much info as possible as to discern wtf is going on, because this is going to continue.
Malone did an interview with Mercola in the last few months where he openly discussed his background or at least some of it. He said the CIA had sent him to Wuhan at the beginning of the pandemic and seemed proud of it. He said even if he was controlled opposition he provided useful information. The Breggins disclosed in an article, that Malone's 2021 resume shows his membership in ACTIV. ACTIV's purpose is to increase uptake of the covid shots. It's membership includes Fauci, Gates and so on. Seems like Malone is hiding in the open but doesn't want us to know.
I appreciate the link and just watched it. If Malone's issue is statements similar to what I just watched, I think he is a bit far from shore on this one and it doesn't make him look good.
The way to approach this is to have the conversation and, if he is correct and Breggins is wrong, he should have no problem illuminating us as to why.
A $25 million defamation suit is a "the lady doth protest too much" moment for me.
Edit: also, Breggins did couch, at least in this interview, that these were his beliefs, he wasn't being simply declarative.
Malone had listed in his suit - which was made public - specific things Breggin had said. So, must be part of other interviews. I hope - in the name of goodwill - he does let this go.
John, this post is the best you have written, since I subscribed. It contains all the philosophical points that you make concerning a variety of topics. Well done.
Hear, hear. So far, he's lost at least one subscriber, and I'm a retired attorney! One of the earliest statements I heard him say years back was that his stance with the resisters would cost him an eventual Nobel prize for the mRNA technology. Thought that was an odd sentiment, but his Napoleonic streak has become clearer. He needs to get better advice from a better lawyer before his image is reduced to a bully, while the Breggins are hailed as martyrs.
Interesting you mention Malone. He now travels like a circus monkey; on the circuit of doctors who are outspoken about the harms that Malone's mRNA 'jab' did/does. There's something not right about the guy. I pick up on the lack of sincerity or something. Apparently, he is v*x injured now...
While he makes me uneasy at times, do get your data straight. The jabs are not his. He developed a core mRNA technology while a young man that current scientists have picked up on and run with as the original patents have expired. He HAS however been in the thick of things as a consultant for many years with DARPA and researchers in the bioweapons fields. And he was injured by the jabs - almost died. Which gave him his Paul from Tarsus moment of being smacked with the light of God or whatever. He started out sounding really good with much information to help us but now....restrained is the best I can say when he speaks. Maybe it’s the lawsuit that keeps him from speaking as he used to. And his substack articles don’t sound like him which gives credence to someone here who said he has writers doing his articles now. Maybe so. But all of this makes me sad as it’s dividing us and breaking us apart.
He *claims* he was injured. Imho, the guy is a lying spook.
Whats even stranger is he claimed he took it because he claims he had long covid and had "heard" the vaccine could help with that. Thats when my ears pointed. It was his tlav interview quite some time ago.
More recently he's said he took it so he could fly and that it was really important he do so. His stories change.
That was initial response and it hasn't changed. On one hand he is "the inventor" of mnra vaccines, as he has claimed, and on the other hand he is a hapless dupe suffering from long covid and "heard" the vaccine (THAT HE CLAIMS HE INVENTED) helps with long covid and jow he is vax injured and has seen the light.
Ok.
Here's the deal. The "idea" that dna or mrna could be used as gene therapy (whether called a "vaccine" or not) was obvious and EVERYBODY in molecular biology knew it. I haven't read his patent, but I'm betting there's nothing brilliant about it. And btw, it doesn't and can't work, not the least of which is because no one has shown that viruses exist. This line of investigation is a total fraud.
Nonetheless, there’s something ‘off’ about Malone
There is. My gut squirms a bit with him and I pay attention to that. His substack this afternoon really irritated me as he went to great lengths to talk about forgiveness and letting things slide with regard to the Twitter hate stuff he is likely to get now that he is back on it. Someone else pointed out he was being inconsistent so I didn’t have to. But yes, “off” is a good word.
As a pro musician, I am very sensitive to body language, speech, tone, inflection, intention, etc. In other words, I understand BS when I sense/see it.
Jon R. was right, the case would become a ground zero for explosion of nonsense; it already did as in this example.
Thank you for bringing sanity and levity to a sad situation. You are like Christopher Hitchens -- completely irreplaceable.
Dr. Malone's actions are incomprehensible, if his interest is advancing the idea of individual liberty in a sane society. Public figures are open to criticism in a free society. Dr. Breggin and his wife are free to express their opinions and so is Dr. Malone, about their opinions. As you indicate, one's work speaks for itself.
Dr. Breggin is 86 years old and has worked for several decades to try to contribute to the health and safety of medical consumers. I wonder what Dr. Malone's work during the last few decades has contributed to?
This is assuming he actually cares about his reputation and that the suit is about defamation, and even that the impetus for it came from Malone as an individual.
I personally think this is another, important, step in the process of destroying First Amendment free speech rights and cementing all-encompassing censorship into society and law. If disagreement equals defamation (which is what this suit seems ultimately to be saying) and speech is violence...well, I guess we can see where that leads us.
I've been very circumspect when many people I know have in the past questioned Dr Malone's motives, accused him of being "controlled opposition" or worse, but I'm now starting to strongly suspect he is actively working for the other side. At the very least, it looks like his narcissism and egotism have made him a very useful idiot for them to manipulate.
I have always been suspicious of Dr Malone simply because people as embedded and ingrained in the military medical state apparatus do not simply step outside of it and start blathering to world as they safely jetset from interview to interview. Sorry folks, they don't happen. Those planes go down, those people get arrested or they kill themselves by shooting two bullets into their head.
"Controlled opposition" is not what he is, though, IN MY OPINION.
I just don't think Malone could be doing what he is doing without the strong backing of other people in influence and power. My belief is he represents a segment inside that has a different path than the Fauci WEF group. He isn't "controlled opposition" he is "another opposition".
It is interesting isn't it how calm and level headed and demure he is in interviews but if you cross him, in private he is a badger. Cursing, yelling, threatening.
Sumthins up.
IN MY OPINION!
Hardly better, lol! Just less secure in my ability to judge character. I've been uncomfortable with him since I first saw him interviewed by Bret Weinstein. There have certainly been red flags since then, too.
"...if his interest is advancing the idea of individual liberty in a sane society."
the lawsuit does beg the question
Maybe Dr. Tom Cowan needs to sue Jeremy Hammond who has accused him of purposefully lying and of being a danger to the health freedom movement?
Dr. Cowan is not interested is suing. He is busy trying to remind us of what science is supposed to be aiming to do.
Look into Malone's background. He plays for the other team.
Excellent advice. Really. I hope he sees this piece and takes what you’ve said to heart.
My sentiments exactly thank you John and thanks to Jon for writing this epistle His outlook and eloquence will survive him I feel like he is a friend!
I am a big fan of Dr. Breggin. I have read several of his books. I have listened to many of his podcasts before and since the covid scam. I am not an expert of any kind -except about myself, and sometimes I doubt even that. I don't know what Dr. and Mrs. Breggin have opined about Malone, but they have every right to say what they think. I doubt, very seriously they said anything that isn't in a public record and then made their own thoughts on his record be known. If Dr. Malone can't take whatever was said about him by the Breggins he should be very careful because there are others who have given their opinions about his work that are very unflattering.
The Breggins must have seemed like easy picking to Malone's lawyers.
Thank you, Jon, for addressing this. I have followed Peter Breggin for years before COVID. As a mental health therapist, he brought honor back to my field, which has lost its way. Since covid, so many different perspectives on health, medicine, science, and even to the nature of our reality have come to light. Everyone comes to their opinions based on their past work; everyone offers something different. I find this extremely interesting and challenging to my own thinking processes. We have gotten only one side of things (the propaganda), for too long...thank god we have differing opinions now. For Malone to strike out against the Breggins like this speaks volumes about his character. Why doesn't he just debate him online for all to see? Let public opinion be the judge.
The world needs more folk like the Breggins right now. Taking them down hurts our fight for the truth. There is no winning for Malone now, no matter what the courts decide.
Christy, I agree with your feelings about Dr. Breggin he is a rare doctor when it comes to mental health that drugs do more harm than good. Yes, we need more people like Dr. Breggin and if Malone doesn't change his mind and stop his suit there will be no winning for him no matter what happen to him in the future.
It's amazing that with all the decades he has challenged the status quo in psychiatry and the pharmaceutical industry, noone has sued him. But now, over a difference of opinion?? Maybe Malone is being paid to sue him because the Breggins got too close to the mark in their recent book. Hmmm I wonder which predator got triggered....?
Thanks, Jon. I believe Malone knows what he is doing: Going after the ONE Psychiatrist who calls out Big Pharma on the Mental Disease Hoax. Peter has done that for decades and this was seen as a huge opportunity to sidetrack/silence Peter.
PS - He has a small team that writes his substacks.
A small team that goes by the initials c**?
Very well said, as always. Personally, I stopped paying attention to Malone a long time ago. I just don’t trust him. What he is doing to the Breggins is nothing more than a nuclear-level temper tantrum. Since when did it become impossible for medical professionals to have rational conversations, individual opinions, and “agree to disagree” about issues? Just because someone disagrees with your views about a subject doesn’t give you the right to try to destroy them. It’s incredibly cruel, among other things.
Excellent job, Jon. And I had a couple of big belly laughs today from it.
Fun aside, I had an instant dislike for Malone from the beginning. His well-trimmed beard, grandfatherly persona and articulate soft-spoken voice, I smelled a foul smell from the beginning and I was admonished over and over for saying he was a shill.
He always beLIEved in the virus myth and that was part of his job, to claim he was a developer in the mRNA technology, for the purposes of credibility as a (political) “scientist” and “authority” figure and then to do an about face to support the anti jab crowd. Smoke comes out of my ears just thinking about this crook.
Dr. Peter Breggin has proven himself to be a genuine, caring human being who has exposed appalling treatment of people and who wanted to change that. I see no malice or manipulation from Dr. Breggin.
I see Malone as a poisonous snake who is now poised to strike at free speech, and that obviously includes revealing truth. “Do not challenge the AUTHORITY of the medical cartel nor the power structure (that funds me)”. He represents the power structure’s attempt to silence any opposition to the facts which prove malice and malfeasance.
Regarding Malone’s appearance: look at his eyes if you can find them. It looks more like small chunks of coal.  I saw him from eight feet away when he came to speak at a rally. I saw him when he was arriving and I said, “The man!” He stepped back and then it was the look of a deer in the headlights. He’s not comfortable with himself.
I do similar things like that around the more famous I find questionable. They have no idea what the heck is going on, when a nobody presents himself not gawking over them like everyone else is.
Well said, Ekoh!
I just read the Breggins take on this, I am confused, this is a defamation lawsuit based on a disagreement of the use of mass formation psychosis? Is there anything else going on? Did the Breggins state unequivocally that Malone fucks goats or something? I just don't see how this doesn't get tossed out immediately.
There were interviews where they speculated on his government connections, and made declarative statements, rather than couching them in, "My speculation is..., or I think that..." etc.
Do you know where I can find those? Things are pretty hot right with the Simone Gold controversy, issues with Died Suddenly, Kirsch came after the Baileys and Cowan, and whatever issues have gone on with the Reiner Fulmich investigations.
There are fractures occurring and this is a real good time to have as much info as possible as to discern wtf is going on, because this is going to continue.
Malone did an interview with Mercola in the last few months where he openly discussed his background or at least some of it. He said the CIA had sent him to Wuhan at the beginning of the pandemic and seemed proud of it. He said even if he was controlled opposition he provided useful information. The Breggins disclosed in an article, that Malone's 2021 resume shows his membership in ACTIV. ACTIV's purpose is to increase uptake of the covid shots. It's membership includes Fauci, Gates and so on. Seems like Malone is hiding in the open but doesn't want us to know.
I really wish he would communicate with people he thinks are attacking him, and not calling them up and yelling at them like he did to Alex Zeck.
There is a way to handle these things. Lawsuits scream intimidation to me and intimidation screams something to hide.
The health freedom movement/ these vaccines are bad movement has many potential fractures thay are already appearing. How its handled is crucial.
Some people believe in viruses, others don't, but this vaccine is bad. Some people believe vaccines are bad, some people believe this vaccine is bad.
There is a lot to exploit and there is power and recognition to be had. The next stage is upon us and navigating it is going to be the trick.
Here's one I found
https://rumble.com/v1iiqxz-doctor-peter-breggin-dr.-breggin-asks-why-is-doctor-malone-a-partner-in-nih.html
I appreciate the link and just watched it. If Malone's issue is statements similar to what I just watched, I think he is a bit far from shore on this one and it doesn't make him look good.
The way to approach this is to have the conversation and, if he is correct and Breggins is wrong, he should have no problem illuminating us as to why.
A $25 million defamation suit is a "the lady doth protest too much" moment for me.
Edit: also, Breggins did couch, at least in this interview, that these were his beliefs, he wasn't being simply declarative.
Malone had listed in his suit - which was made public - specific things Breggin had said. So, must be part of other interviews. I hope - in the name of goodwill - he does let this go.
John, this post is the best you have written, since I subscribed. It contains all the philosophical points that you make concerning a variety of topics. Well done.
Malone is an actor, and not a very good one at that. He needs to be outed and booted from the "opposition."
https://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/4421/Dr-Robert-Malone-A-Risk-Analysis.aspx
Exactly. They’re all skilled actors. Either cognizant or zombie, it’s acting or Kabuki if you prefer.
I hope he listens to you. But, I doubt it.