"I worked hard for my Ph.D. I've earned the right to fuck with the stuff of life. Turning a zebra fish into a clownfish might be unintended, but it would be a wonderful thing."
But we don't turn a zebra fish into a clownfish, all we manage to do is turn healthy, living zebra fish into unhealthy or dead zebra fish. I did that work for decades, and created genetically-altered plants and animals, but they were for lab use only and were ultimately killed. And, I also spent the final 15 yrs of my career training PhD students, and, frankly, not meaning to be unkind, but if you are saying that you've concluded your degree gives you enough understanding and knowledge to begin altering the genetics of healthy, living organisms outside the lab setting, my prediction is that you will become a successful scientist and a hazard to humanity.
Genetic Engineering is so completely Wrong Headed it's impossible to express... until our so called Institutions of higher learning start nurturing Whole Beings - and fewer stunted creatures with highly developed minds committed to the most irrational of purposes... GOF, vaccine madness, CRISPr and their ilk will plague mankind.. incredible how Man has strayed so far from Eden...
Coupled with the development of the Mind and the Body there must be equal development of a Deep understanding of what is true Moral and Ethical behavior... what is Sacred?
How about All of Life... untouched by Man?
In the most Profound Way, Less is More when it comes to interfering with Nature and the Human Body...
Curt Sanders: So you are a Christian Scientist then? You don't go to doctors. You don't take any vaccines including Small Pox? You don't wear glasses? You don't get your teeth fixed? You don't wear shoes or clothes?
Mother Nature is a bitch who's been trying to kill me since the day I was born and pretty soon she'll succeed in her mission.
no Timmy you completely missed my comment.. I condemn unethical Ego driven Frankenstein GFO poisoned science..so handy for the military to abuse and CRISPr crap...
Mother Nature creates life, controls it, and takes it away sometimes in earthquakes, Tidal Waves, and Wild fires.. so unless you die in an act of nature .. your death is your own doing, your physical ailments are are your doing not Mother Nature's... not enough exercise, eating wrongly, drinking, drugs, covid vaccines, or a combination of all the above. We are completely responsible for our current state, physical, mental, spiritual...
Mother Nature if you give her a chance can be a healer.... Wholistic Doctors are healers as well..they don't get involved in GOF, etc...
Curt Sanders: I understood your comment. Your belief in "Mother Nature" is your business. We are NOT completely responsible for our physical state. Are not genetic defects from your "Mother Nature"? Down's Syndrome for example?
There is no Eden accept for what mankind has created through hard work and research. Earth is not a paradise.
I spent six months in the Amazon jungle in Brazil. Try it yourself and see if it changes your attitude.
The Amazonians have a saying, "God is strong. But the Forest is stronger."
Timmie, you misconstrue again.. I have no belief in Mother Nature... she is simply a Force to be reckoned with here on Earth.. I am not interested in belief, yours, mine or any others..[they are just mental constructs that one personally identifies with] I am interested in the Unconditional Absolute Truth, Reality...and the Art of Living..
6 mos in the Amazon that's good brother, yes, but I have spent the better part of 60 yrs in Mother Natures womb, fact.. , 30 yrs surfing year round All conditions and 50 yrs of climbing vertical rock walls across the entire NA continent.. couple hundred 1st ascents[just a few Big Ones] shore to shore.. from Yosemite's El Capitan in every season, to the Baja's El Gran Trono Blanco, winter ascents in Zion.. skiing back and forth across the Sierra Nevada's Wild and wonderful back country from Lone Pine to Lake Tahoe for most winters the last 20+ yrs..
Those are just facts as is the fact I have been and am Blessed to continue.. I give Thanks every time I rope up or strap on the skis or paddle out.. don't know If I will see another year or another week.. probably will, but none the less I am going for it till the very End.. Death is my close friend.. nothing to fear.. like Life also a close friend.. and nothing to fear..
Regarding Down Syndrome well the way I see it.. thats is a special state a soul chooses to experience for a multitude of possible reasons... its not some random bad roll of the genetic dice..
Lastly, don't want to take total Responsibility for your current state..? You don't have to.... no.. but Maybe if at some point you will want to explore that deeply the Universe will give you that opportunity...
Keep smiling, keep Digging Deep, physical death is coming...ain't no Big Thing
Curt Sanders: You have had an active life as have I. I ran marathons and exercised every day. I ate right. But shit still happens.
Death doesn't scare me. Ending up in a nursing home terrifies me. The Art of Living is what I'm interested in as well. There is no Art of Living in a Memory Care Center.
My wife and I spent three years visiting her parents in Memory Care. That is a trip to the seventh level of Hell in Dante's Inferno.
Debra's parents were SoCal health nuts. And yet they both got Alzheimer's and ended up in Memory Care.
I once was like you. I enjoyed every day and thought life was kinda fair. If I took care of myself, I'd be okay. Nope.
I like the idea that I partially learned from Mr Rappoport and that is this is sort of corrupt astro local we choose to come and gain experience, of which we can revolutionize to the core. We. Any of us. One of us. Because that is the real nature, not necessarily the created and predictabilities of this space/time so called natural hypnotic world. We are a bit more than that. I know, scientists, nature lovers, and others will argue their convictions too. Isn't that neat? A place where everyone can find the data that supports their current convictions. I love it.
Sean Garrisson: I can only speak from personal experience and books I've read. There is something very magical about human beings. I like, or did like in the Pre-Covid Con Days, to sit and just watch and listen to people.
Just watching them move, talk, emote, interact... was amazing every time. So much variety but in every person I could see that magical spark.
Oh and I haven't forgot. I am going to get a list of books you have recommended once I get caught up. Im into a few right now plus I like to study Rappoports work. I listen to his collections, do some exercises and I like to write out some of his talks and reread those. I find writing what he talks about is really good. I figured that out a while back when I was writing down all of his Imagination Exercises and compiling it in a notebook. Then I found myself writing some of what he would comment on in regards to an exercise. I'd look at it. Reread it. And say, wtf is that? That is some really good stuff. Ive head him say it and I figured out it was even more magical writing it out and reading it. So I do his full talks. And same thing happens. Still. Anyway. I would have never known the world of non fiction until him and you. And its true importance. Never knew.
Sean: I never thought of writing down other's words. I have copied passages from books and articles, even typed them sometimes, so I see what you mean. It does increase understanding.
Currently I'm reading "Phoenix & Belgrano" by Ricky D. Phillips. It is about the USS Phoenix light cruiser in WWII which after the war, was sold to Argentina. A British submarine sank the Belgrano in the Falklands War (1982).
It is interesting to me how people interact with each other in government, military, and on the streets.
Wow, that is really neat. Variety. I finally can see that. Magical Spark. Now that is something I will have to work on. To me it is someone allowing me and to not interfere. Then I reflect, am I violating that myself? Yep.
Yes, they are playing with fire. I first began mutating DNA in the late 1980s (then a weeks-long laborious process, now inexpensively done by machine in hours.) I was a proponent of genetic engineering for many years. But by 2015, I realized it to be a fool's game. By then, the 1950s-era DNA-RNA-Protein paradigm been completely overturned, and any understanding "science" had of genetics and role in life was in its infancy. I told my students this was a great research opportunity, as so little was known or understood. Yet, "science" continues its pronouncements regarding genetic engineering of plants, animals, and people which entirely ignore the harmful or lethal hazards which accompany changing things one does not understand. The "covid vaccine" was but one example.
I'm curious if properties that can change or alter dna is really a big deal? I don't know science as well as I'd wish. But I read somewhere that sperm changes women's dna. And if that is so then what does that mean? For women it is natural? But consuming gmo corn and gmo wheat ect is unnatural and harmful? And if nanotech shots do alter and damage us generationally as well, then is there reversibility? My guess if billions are affected by all of this accumulated frankenshit, then this will be an area of long term work to correct as best as possible.
Don't know about the sperm thing- sperm penetration of the egg must signal a woman's body to activate different genes, but that's not changing DNA, only activating it to do as it was designed to do. On the generation thing, based on the current hypothesis, the only DNA passed generationally is that in the sperm and egg. So mutations in those cells would be passed to a child. But mutations to DNA in the other body's cells would effect only that individual. On reversibility- the whole mRNA gene therapy concept was to reverse existing natural mutations. However, that technology failed miserably, both failing to help and causing great harm including death. I see no hope of repairing DNA once damaged. I suppose the least bad news is that while the poisonous injection is causing great harm and death, there is no direct evidence that it is damaging the DNA. We don't even know what exactly is contained in the different lots of injections, nor which component(s) of the injection is causing the harm or how that harm is caused. Time, money, and resources are required to answer those questions, and the US government is doing all it can to restrict access to those things required to prevent finding answers to those questions.
Overall, the problem is that nobody knows what effects any given mutation will have because nobody knows the mechanism(s) of DNA and RNA in the body. Our lab made single mutations in mice- some killed the mice, others had no apparent effect. Typically, researchers are only looking for a single effect, but there are tens of thousands of biological reactions occurring at any given time, and no way to monitor if any of those other reactions are disrupted. In plants, who can guess? For instance, one mutation in roses designed to give them insect resistance had the unexpected result that the flower also lost its odor.
One suggestion in the review article is that the organization of DNA is not at the gene level, but at the exon level, to use an analogy, the organization is not at the sentence level, but at the word level, with each word (exon) in a given sentence (gene) potentially being part of a different sentence (gene.) If so, any changes in one word in a sentence could disrupt any number of other sentences- we just don't know. One thing is certain, the only safe strategy is to make no changes at all. I once favored GMO products- I now consider them hazardous and complete folly.
I seen on TV commercial once that I should trust a Real Farmer that GMO raised foods are good. Other than cash, would there any other real basis for his Expert assessment?
You changed your view. Were you paid a bunch of money to do that? You just up and considered the work you loved to do and at one time you even favored GMO products. How does one make that leap?
It would be the rare farmer has enough information to make such a statement. He probably believes what he was told, just as I did.
I wish there had been money. Nor was it a sudden change- just 20yrs more experience and gaining new information. Students are trained in the establishment science model, and it takes time (and the will to want to know) to determine that much of what is taught is bullhockey.
Serious question - unlike my prior sarcastic comment in which I impersonated a geneticist PhD - are there any books you can suggest on the topic of the overturned paradigm of DNA -> RNA -> Protein? Horace Freeland Judson's Eighth Day of Creation was a favorite of mine long ago. I loved Crick's anecdote about how he coined the term "central dogma". He misunderstood the meaning of "dogma", and yet his coinage still stuck.
Nice job, had me fooled. Regarding your question, there is a June 2007 review article in Nature Reviews- Genetics, volume 8, titled Genome-wide transcription and the implications for genomic organization, with authors Philipp Kapranov, Aaron T. Gillingham, and Thomas R. Gingeras. It is a scientific establishment paper, but it does acknowledge the lack of understanding of genetics, though you must read it through a scientist's understanding of language, and realize all conditional words or phrases (might, could, suggest, unclear, some evidence, estimates vary, not fully understood, etc.) should be interpreted as "we have no clue." Anything known will be stated bluntly by the author, as the typical paper contains few knowns. My takeaway from this review was that interactions between DNA molecules is so complex that it is impossible to know what effect any given mutation would have on an organism. And, that the role of RNA, about which little is known, plays a far greater than thought leading to even less understanding of genetics overall. The review paper costs money though I have a digital copy I could share with you. I have a yahoo address at my name.
What are genes? What is DNA? It’s like trying to do a giant jigsaw puzzle with only four pieces available. They find a repeating pattern of a few pieces, and they say aha, that’s Covid, or flu, or rhinovirus, or whatever.
I can't comment at length: I worked in that field w/ the world class scientists at NIH.. even back then, frankly, and I commented at length on CRSPR techniques.. it is still a crap shoot. NO KIDDING. As a retired Molecular Biologist and having worked for the man who actually "first" conceived (it was two people) the ONCOGENE theory and I personally extracted DNA and RNA and used Reverse Transcriptase from RNA viruses in the 70s and our team was the best of the best, we all knew that many people like Robert Gallo and many people who worked w/HIV and others were just cooking up witches brews. I can count on one hand the people who actually understood the science .. and to this day that hasn't changed. The real scientists are NOT on the internet.. let's put it that way. As a retired scientist I immediately grasped Crspr when it was announced and knew what it meant.. but we still have yet to identify the functionality of the HUMAN GENOME. We gave it a name but we still don't know how to actually USE IT and make it work. LIke one guy said: OH YEAH. let's see what we can do here.. create "Frankenstein" again.. the Arrogance of humanity. I think Shakespeare said that best.. he has a lot to say.. right on taget about the VANITY OF HUMANITY.. right? :) have a lot to do today.. fascinating post.. thanks
But if....back in 1980's if your science is looking like bullshit, then you just launch lies about how this awesome gene / DNA findings are working so well for a few years. Infiltrate the universities with rich supporters/board of directors who will benefit, produce some Hollywood entertainment... then run your high-tech new-age psyop until it becomes accepted (and needed by the big guys), and now you can use that BS as evidence in the courts... and wow the public love it! We have come so far!
And then there are the special interests. Let's say genetic changes get rid of bad teeth. What will the dentists and their assistants do? Learn to code?
What about the eye doctors, glasses makers, laser surgeons for 20-20 vision? Do they learn to code, too?
When I was in Belem, Brazil in the Amazon, my friend from Rio de Janeiro told me, "Belem is not Brazil. Belem is a genetic experiment."
The mind boggling part is that they KNOW their understanding is nascent at best. They know how high the stakes are, but there’s a class that are willing to do experiments on humans, or at least remain silent while it’s done writ large.
Here’s a list of things that they could have put in the vials of COVID vaccines.
1. LNPs w/mRNA
2. LNPs w/DNA
3. LNPs con nada
4. Spike protein
5. Spike protein with adjuvants
6. Saline
Please add to...
Also, one question keeps bugging me. With this transfection technology, they can compel cells to produce, theoretically, any protein.
Why didn’t they encode the mRNA to produce the desired neutralizing antibodies directly?
"I worked hard for my Ph.D. I've earned the right to fuck with the stuff of life. Turning a zebra fish into a clownfish might be unintended, but it would be a wonderful thing."
But we don't turn a zebra fish into a clownfish, all we manage to do is turn healthy, living zebra fish into unhealthy or dead zebra fish. I did that work for decades, and created genetically-altered plants and animals, but they were for lab use only and were ultimately killed. And, I also spent the final 15 yrs of my career training PhD students, and, frankly, not meaning to be unkind, but if you are saying that you've concluded your degree gives you enough understanding and knowledge to begin altering the genetics of healthy, living organisms outside the lab setting, my prediction is that you will become a successful scientist and a hazard to humanity.
I hope you are kidding. .. I am sure you are .. or that PHD means what it used to mean PILED, HIGHER AND DEEPER my friend.
My bachelor's is in sarcasm. I should have listened to my parents and put in the work to get a PhD.
Genetic Engineering is so completely Wrong Headed it's impossible to express... until our so called Institutions of higher learning start nurturing Whole Beings - and fewer stunted creatures with highly developed minds committed to the most irrational of purposes... GOF, vaccine madness, CRISPr and their ilk will plague mankind.. incredible how Man has strayed so far from Eden...
Coupled with the development of the Mind and the Body there must be equal development of a Deep understanding of what is true Moral and Ethical behavior... what is Sacred?
How about All of Life... untouched by Man?
In the most Profound Way, Less is More when it comes to interfering with Nature and the Human Body...
Travel is Sacred.
Curt Sanders: So you are a Christian Scientist then? You don't go to doctors. You don't take any vaccines including Small Pox? You don't wear glasses? You don't get your teeth fixed? You don't wear shoes or clothes?
Mother Nature is a bitch who's been trying to kill me since the day I was born and pretty soon she'll succeed in her mission.
no Timmy you completely missed my comment.. I condemn unethical Ego driven Frankenstein GFO poisoned science..so handy for the military to abuse and CRISPr crap...
Mother Nature creates life, controls it, and takes it away sometimes in earthquakes, Tidal Waves, and Wild fires.. so unless you die in an act of nature .. your death is your own doing, your physical ailments are are your doing not Mother Nature's... not enough exercise, eating wrongly, drinking, drugs, covid vaccines, or a combination of all the above. We are completely responsible for our current state, physical, mental, spiritual...
Mother Nature if you give her a chance can be a healer.... Wholistic Doctors are healers as well..they don't get involved in GOF, etc...
Curt Sanders: I understood your comment. Your belief in "Mother Nature" is your business. We are NOT completely responsible for our physical state. Are not genetic defects from your "Mother Nature"? Down's Syndrome for example?
There is no Eden accept for what mankind has created through hard work and research. Earth is not a paradise.
I spent six months in the Amazon jungle in Brazil. Try it yourself and see if it changes your attitude.
The Amazonians have a saying, "God is strong. But the Forest is stronger."
Timmie, you misconstrue again.. I have no belief in Mother Nature... she is simply a Force to be reckoned with here on Earth.. I am not interested in belief, yours, mine or any others..[they are just mental constructs that one personally identifies with] I am interested in the Unconditional Absolute Truth, Reality...and the Art of Living..
6 mos in the Amazon that's good brother, yes, but I have spent the better part of 60 yrs in Mother Natures womb, fact.. , 30 yrs surfing year round All conditions and 50 yrs of climbing vertical rock walls across the entire NA continent.. couple hundred 1st ascents[just a few Big Ones] shore to shore.. from Yosemite's El Capitan in every season, to the Baja's El Gran Trono Blanco, winter ascents in Zion.. skiing back and forth across the Sierra Nevada's Wild and wonderful back country from Lone Pine to Lake Tahoe for most winters the last 20+ yrs..
Those are just facts as is the fact I have been and am Blessed to continue.. I give Thanks every time I rope up or strap on the skis or paddle out.. don't know If I will see another year or another week.. probably will, but none the less I am going for it till the very End.. Death is my close friend.. nothing to fear.. like Life also a close friend.. and nothing to fear..
Regarding Down Syndrome well the way I see it.. thats is a special state a soul chooses to experience for a multitude of possible reasons... its not some random bad roll of the genetic dice..
Lastly, don't want to take total Responsibility for your current state..? You don't have to.... no.. but Maybe if at some point you will want to explore that deeply the Universe will give you that opportunity...
Keep smiling, keep Digging Deep, physical death is coming...ain't no Big Thing
Curt Sanders: You have had an active life as have I. I ran marathons and exercised every day. I ate right. But shit still happens.
Death doesn't scare me. Ending up in a nursing home terrifies me. The Art of Living is what I'm interested in as well. There is no Art of Living in a Memory Care Center.
My wife and I spent three years visiting her parents in Memory Care. That is a trip to the seventh level of Hell in Dante's Inferno.
Debra's parents were SoCal health nuts. And yet they both got Alzheimer's and ended up in Memory Care.
I once was like you. I enjoyed every day and thought life was kinda fair. If I took care of myself, I'd be okay. Nope.
I like the idea that I partially learned from Mr Rappoport and that is this is sort of corrupt astro local we choose to come and gain experience, of which we can revolutionize to the core. We. Any of us. One of us. Because that is the real nature, not necessarily the created and predictabilities of this space/time so called natural hypnotic world. We are a bit more than that. I know, scientists, nature lovers, and others will argue their convictions too. Isn't that neat? A place where everyone can find the data that supports their current convictions. I love it.
Sean Garrisson: I can only speak from personal experience and books I've read. There is something very magical about human beings. I like, or did like in the Pre-Covid Con Days, to sit and just watch and listen to people.
Just watching them move, talk, emote, interact... was amazing every time. So much variety but in every person I could see that magical spark.
Oh and I haven't forgot. I am going to get a list of books you have recommended once I get caught up. Im into a few right now plus I like to study Rappoports work. I listen to his collections, do some exercises and I like to write out some of his talks and reread those. I find writing what he talks about is really good. I figured that out a while back when I was writing down all of his Imagination Exercises and compiling it in a notebook. Then I found myself writing some of what he would comment on in regards to an exercise. I'd look at it. Reread it. And say, wtf is that? That is some really good stuff. Ive head him say it and I figured out it was even more magical writing it out and reading it. So I do his full talks. And same thing happens. Still. Anyway. I would have never known the world of non fiction until him and you. And its true importance. Never knew.
Sean: I never thought of writing down other's words. I have copied passages from books and articles, even typed them sometimes, so I see what you mean. It does increase understanding.
Currently I'm reading "Phoenix & Belgrano" by Ricky D. Phillips. It is about the USS Phoenix light cruiser in WWII which after the war, was sold to Argentina. A British submarine sank the Belgrano in the Falklands War (1982).
It is interesting to me how people interact with each other in government, military, and on the streets.
Wow, that is really neat. Variety. I finally can see that. Magical Spark. Now that is something I will have to work on. To me it is someone allowing me and to not interfere. Then I reflect, am I violating that myself? Yep.
Sean: As long as they don't tell me what to do, I can handle them.
tower of babel 2.0 - arrogance of man
Yes, they are playing with fire. I first began mutating DNA in the late 1980s (then a weeks-long laborious process, now inexpensively done by machine in hours.) I was a proponent of genetic engineering for many years. But by 2015, I realized it to be a fool's game. By then, the 1950s-era DNA-RNA-Protein paradigm been completely overturned, and any understanding "science" had of genetics and role in life was in its infancy. I told my students this was a great research opportunity, as so little was known or understood. Yet, "science" continues its pronouncements regarding genetic engineering of plants, animals, and people which entirely ignore the harmful or lethal hazards which accompany changing things one does not understand. The "covid vaccine" was but one example.
I'm curious if properties that can change or alter dna is really a big deal? I don't know science as well as I'd wish. But I read somewhere that sperm changes women's dna. And if that is so then what does that mean? For women it is natural? But consuming gmo corn and gmo wheat ect is unnatural and harmful? And if nanotech shots do alter and damage us generationally as well, then is there reversibility? My guess if billions are affected by all of this accumulated frankenshit, then this will be an area of long term work to correct as best as possible.
Don't know about the sperm thing- sperm penetration of the egg must signal a woman's body to activate different genes, but that's not changing DNA, only activating it to do as it was designed to do. On the generation thing, based on the current hypothesis, the only DNA passed generationally is that in the sperm and egg. So mutations in those cells would be passed to a child. But mutations to DNA in the other body's cells would effect only that individual. On reversibility- the whole mRNA gene therapy concept was to reverse existing natural mutations. However, that technology failed miserably, both failing to help and causing great harm including death. I see no hope of repairing DNA once damaged. I suppose the least bad news is that while the poisonous injection is causing great harm and death, there is no direct evidence that it is damaging the DNA. We don't even know what exactly is contained in the different lots of injections, nor which component(s) of the injection is causing the harm or how that harm is caused. Time, money, and resources are required to answer those questions, and the US government is doing all it can to restrict access to those things required to prevent finding answers to those questions.
Overall, the problem is that nobody knows what effects any given mutation will have because nobody knows the mechanism(s) of DNA and RNA in the body. Our lab made single mutations in mice- some killed the mice, others had no apparent effect. Typically, researchers are only looking for a single effect, but there are tens of thousands of biological reactions occurring at any given time, and no way to monitor if any of those other reactions are disrupted. In plants, who can guess? For instance, one mutation in roses designed to give them insect resistance had the unexpected result that the flower also lost its odor.
One suggestion in the review article is that the organization of DNA is not at the gene level, but at the exon level, to use an analogy, the organization is not at the sentence level, but at the word level, with each word (exon) in a given sentence (gene) potentially being part of a different sentence (gene.) If so, any changes in one word in a sentence could disrupt any number of other sentences- we just don't know. One thing is certain, the only safe strategy is to make no changes at all. I once favored GMO products- I now consider them hazardous and complete folly.
Thanks that was helpful.
I seen on TV commercial once that I should trust a Real Farmer that GMO raised foods are good. Other than cash, would there any other real basis for his Expert assessment?
You changed your view. Were you paid a bunch of money to do that? You just up and considered the work you loved to do and at one time you even favored GMO products. How does one make that leap?
It would be the rare farmer has enough information to make such a statement. He probably believes what he was told, just as I did.
I wish there had been money. Nor was it a sudden change- just 20yrs more experience and gaining new information. Students are trained in the establishment science model, and it takes time (and the will to want to know) to determine that much of what is taught is bullhockey.
Thanks man.
Serious question - unlike my prior sarcastic comment in which I impersonated a geneticist PhD - are there any books you can suggest on the topic of the overturned paradigm of DNA -> RNA -> Protein? Horace Freeland Judson's Eighth Day of Creation was a favorite of mine long ago. I loved Crick's anecdote about how he coined the term "central dogma". He misunderstood the meaning of "dogma", and yet his coinage still stuck.
I just responded, but I think it ended up in the general comments section?
Yes - I see it.
David Lamson: My in-laws are a perfect example of genetic engineering gone wrong.
Nice job, had me fooled. Regarding your question, there is a June 2007 review article in Nature Reviews- Genetics, volume 8, titled Genome-wide transcription and the implications for genomic organization, with authors Philipp Kapranov, Aaron T. Gillingham, and Thomas R. Gingeras. It is a scientific establishment paper, but it does acknowledge the lack of understanding of genetics, though you must read it through a scientist's understanding of language, and realize all conditional words or phrases (might, could, suggest, unclear, some evidence, estimates vary, not fully understood, etc.) should be interpreted as "we have no clue." Anything known will be stated bluntly by the author, as the typical paper contains few knowns. My takeaway from this review was that interactions between DNA molecules is so complex that it is impossible to know what effect any given mutation would have on an organism. And, that the role of RNA, about which little is known, plays a far greater than thought leading to even less understanding of genetics overall. The review paper costs money though I have a digital copy I could share with you. I have a yahoo address at my name.
Thank you, I found it:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nrg2083
My "unpaywall" browser plug-in confirms it's not publicly available. I'll gladly accept your digital copy offer. Will send email now.
The epitaph of this technology will be “unintended consequences“ let’s hope that is not the epitaph of humanity.
Those that do not learn the lessons of history such Thalidomide are doomed to repeat it .
What are genes? What is DNA? It’s like trying to do a giant jigsaw puzzle with only four pieces available. They find a repeating pattern of a few pieces, and they say aha, that’s Covid, or flu, or rhinovirus, or whatever.
I can't comment at length: I worked in that field w/ the world class scientists at NIH.. even back then, frankly, and I commented at length on CRSPR techniques.. it is still a crap shoot. NO KIDDING. As a retired Molecular Biologist and having worked for the man who actually "first" conceived (it was two people) the ONCOGENE theory and I personally extracted DNA and RNA and used Reverse Transcriptase from RNA viruses in the 70s and our team was the best of the best, we all knew that many people like Robert Gallo and many people who worked w/HIV and others were just cooking up witches brews. I can count on one hand the people who actually understood the science .. and to this day that hasn't changed. The real scientists are NOT on the internet.. let's put it that way. As a retired scientist I immediately grasped Crspr when it was announced and knew what it meant.. but we still have yet to identify the functionality of the HUMAN GENOME. We gave it a name but we still don't know how to actually USE IT and make it work. LIke one guy said: OH YEAH. let's see what we can do here.. create "Frankenstein" again.. the Arrogance of humanity. I think Shakespeare said that best.. he has a lot to say.. right on taget about the VANITY OF HUMANITY.. right? :) have a lot to do today.. fascinating post.. thanks
But if....back in 1980's if your science is looking like bullshit, then you just launch lies about how this awesome gene / DNA findings are working so well for a few years. Infiltrate the universities with rich supporters/board of directors who will benefit, produce some Hollywood entertainment... then run your high-tech new-age psyop until it becomes accepted (and needed by the big guys), and now you can use that BS as evidence in the courts... and wow the public love it! We have come so far!
"Jesus said 'Father forgive them for they know not what they do.' I say 'Father have pity on them for they know not what will happen.'" --Meher Baba
The Island of Dr. Moreau comes to mind. Yikes!
And then there are the special interests. Let's say genetic changes get rid of bad teeth. What will the dentists and their assistants do? Learn to code?
What about the eye doctors, glasses makers, laser surgeons for 20-20 vision? Do they learn to code, too?
When I was in Belem, Brazil in the Amazon, my friend from Rio de Janeiro told me, "Belem is not Brazil. Belem is a genetic experiment."
Pro-creation is a genetic experiment.
All of us are genetic experiments.
The mind boggling part is that they KNOW their understanding is nascent at best. They know how high the stakes are, but there’s a class that are willing to do experiments on humans, or at least remain silent while it’s done writ large.
Here’s a list of things that they could have put in the vials of COVID vaccines.
1. LNPs w/mRNA
2. LNPs w/DNA
3. LNPs con nada
4. Spike protein
5. Spike protein with adjuvants
6. Saline
Please add to...
Also, one question keeps bugging me. With this transfection technology, they can compel cells to produce, theoretically, any protein.
Why didn’t they encode the mRNA to produce the desired neutralizing antibodies directly?
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Reports full of "unintended changes" - seems perfect for hit-and-miss experimentation and we are counted as sheep only so no peoblem with that!
Mitch......Apparently you used your Doctorate degree to turn yourself into a clown/fish.